Friday, 5 March 2021

Fathers Waiting Rooms - Pubs by Maternity Hospitals

One of the most easily quoted scenes from an Irish movie is that from The Snapper, where Des Curley reveals the weight of his new-born grandchild to a solidly unimpressed fellow drinker, in N1097 Conways on Parnell Street. 


This pub was renowned as being a "fathers waiting room", where - particularly in the days before it was normal for a father to actually attend the birth - men would wait out the final stretch of labour, and possibly try control any nerves with a few pints. Conways has not traded for over a decade now, but there are plans to renovate it.

But Dublin has more than one maternity hospital, and in January 1994 - not that long after The Snapper came out, albeit its not mentioned in the article, the Sunday World's "Pub Spy" column visited the four pubs nearest the four maternity hospitals in Dublin at that time.

Sunday World, 30th January 1994


Notably, not a single one of them was open as of March 2020 and only one has any short-term chance of serving pints to anyone; even if the specific market of worried waiting father drinking has waned.

Pub Spy's usual "pint rating", an officially six point, zero to five pint scale - but which really seems to be one to four with zero and five being very rare curses/accolades, is changed to a "stork rating" for this article; which may have been a slightly confusing choice. For the second pub they visit - after granting Conways four storks - was The Stork on Cork Street. 

Serving the fathers of The Coombe, The Stork, which closed in the early 2000s, was granted 3 storks; with O'Dwyers (most recently S0149 Howl at the Moon, eventually to reopen as a hotel on the same site) opposite the National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street also getting four storks.

The final review, another four storks, was of the Orwell Lodge Hotel, which closed in the mid/late 2000s; and was the nearest to Mount Carmel Hospital, which itself delivered its last baby in early 2014. A rarer smaller suburban hotel that was fully licenced but not heavily based around a nightclub (I don't even think it had one), the Orwell Lodge still befell the same fate as many similar sized hotels - apartments.

The World's slightly obsession with carnal matters, at that time at least, provides suggestions that a coupling in O'Dwyers "Night Train" nightclub, or a stay at the Orwell Lodge, could provide a need to make use of the maternity hospital nine months later.

Monday, 1 March 2021

March 2021 Licence Update

More changes than usual this month

New

1015538 Tallaght Cross Hotel, Tallaght - this has been listed as a residents bar until this month

Reappearances

1009700 The Snug, Stephen Street after being removed last month
S1470 Agnes Brownes, Thomas Street - pub name is now recorded as "Fidelity" and seems to have the same operators as N0099 Big Romance

Thursday, 25 February 2021

Not Pubs: Guinness Merger Timeline

I haven't seen a timeline of the many acquisitions that Guinness made in the 50s and 60s which had the end result of reducing regional variations in Irish beer and the eventual closure of every pre-craft-era brewery outside of Cork and James's Gate.

However, part of the reason for this is that its rather hard to nail down dates, so don't trust this to actually be that accurate. 

1952

Guinness of Dublin purchases Cherrys of New Ross

1954

Smithwicks of Kilkenny purchase the Great Northern Brewery of Dundalk

1955

Guinness purchases the defunct Strangmans Brewery of Waterford.

Cherrys production is moved to Strangmans, New Ross closes.

Ind Coope of the UK purchase a large, but non-controlling stake in Macardle Moore of Dundalk

1956

Cherry Cairnes Distribution Ltd formed to produce and distribute Phoenix Ale. Cairnes of Drogheda is at this stage an independent company

1957

Perrys Rathdowney bought, nominally by Cherrys

1959

Cairnes brewery closed in 1959 and sold immediately to Cherrys (and hence Guinness).  Cairnes Ltd refocused on their (Prestons) distillery

Irish Ale Breweries Ltd (IAB) is formed to merge the operations of Cherrys, Perrys and Macardle Moore. This company is 66.6% owned by Guinness and 33.3% owned by Ind Coope, reflecting their input to the merger

Smithwicks lease the Great Northern Brewery to Guinness for an initial period of five years. The newspaper reports on this imply Smithwick is not in a solid financial state following extremely poor sales in 1958.

1960

IAB now own 100% of the Macardle Moore company

1961

IAB purchase Bulmers of Clonmel, who rapidly enter cooperation with Showerings, a sister company of Ind Coope

1962

Drogheda site closed entirely

1964 

Guinness gain a controlling share of the still publicly listed Smithwicks

1965

Guinness fully take over Smithwicks

1966 

Smithwicks transferred to IAB

1967

Showerings take majority stake in Bulmers

Perrys brewery closes, after but probably not due to a strike. Production moved to Waterford.

1970

C&C takes full ownership of Bulmers.

1988

Guinness takes full ownership of IAB.

2000

Macardle Moore brewery closes.

~2004

Waterford production moves to new facility

2013

Great Northern brewery closes

Kilkenny brewery closes

Replacement Waterford brewery closes.


Of all the range of products bought in through all this process, I believe only Macardles and a heavily modified Smithwicks are still in production, at James's Gate. Phoenix survived until this century, Perrys possibly until the 1980s but other products - Great Northerns' Amber Ale, the Perrys and Cherrys products and so on faded out quite quickly.

Tuesday, 23 February 2021

"Stolen" Dublin Pubs

As Lockdown continues, so do the historic articles - and this one is breaching my 1902 "floor", as I find it rather interesting considering county boundaries have formed part of Lockdown restrictions at various times - at various times allowing me in to a pub for as long as I wanted (2m+ spacing) without buying food, and restricting me from visiting pubs in Dublin at all.

County boundaries often seem like something set since time immemorial, and are often heavily defended if there are any suggestions of altering them - such as the proposals to give Limerick City some areas currently in Clare; or Waterford City some from Kilkenny.

But the boundaries are "recent" invention compared to what many may think; and were significantly finessed in 1898 when the predecessor of our current system of local government came in. On the list of changes provided by Shane Wilson, you may note that a portion of Bray, Co Wicklow was actually Little Bray, Co Dublin prior to this. This would be the areas of the town north of the River Dargle.

So how many extra pubs in Dublin has this denied us?

Four. One is long, long gone; one has been closed for quite some time as far as I can tell, and they all may not be pre-1898 anyway.

The Sunnybank, burnt down in 2000, was located where the large gym/office/apartment complex is on the Dublin Road. An ad from 2006 for retail units here stated the pub licence was still available, so I would assume the Costcutter that was there originally may have used it for off-sales.

The Dargle Tavern, which I believe has not traded in some time, is at the junction of the Upper and Lower Dargle Roads.

The Coach Inn, Dublin Road and O'Sullivans, Castle Street are the final two - both are still extant so there is less information online about them than a pub that has closed might have! O'Sullivans website is currently offline but The Coach appears to be open for food takeout.

Interestingly, a 2002 Pub Spy review didn't agree with the 1898 changes!
Sunday World, 5th May 2002


There is another, even rarer, form of pubs disappearing from Dublin but trading elsewhere - the wholesale shipment of the interior of the pub away from Dublin. The only confirmed case I'm aware of of this is documented on Come Here To Me! and is that of the bar of the original Jurys Hotel, now in Zurich. However, an article on the work of the Irish Pub Company, who have often used salvaged interiors, claims that the branch of the US pub chain Fadó in Chicago has a "South of Dublin" pub interior. 

2025 Update:

I'm not sure how I missed this, but when looking for info on an odd description in another bit of legalisation, I found out that there was another transfer of territory from Dublin to Wickow in 1957, however this seems to have been primarily some empty fields which were rapidly turned in to housing estates. I had considered this part of the 1898 changes, but as far as I can see it doesn't (and didn't) include any pubs; so it doesn't make any of them a post-1902 Dublin Pub for my purposes.

Monday, 1 February 2021

February 2020 Licence Update

Small enough list of changes this month, but all on the interesting end of the scale:

Removals
1009700 The Snug, Stephen Street. Don't take this as a certainty that its closed for good, however.

Returns
N0189 H Mathews, Benburb Street
N1107 Coffeys, Emmet Road. Both of these are returned in the name of a receiver and are probably only to make the licence saleable, but it is possible this isn't the case.

Thursday, 28 January 2021

Six Day & Early Closing

The Background

I've previously written about the set of different licences that can be hold by what I consider to be a pub; and how that may, inconsistently, not be agreed with by others; but there are a few other types which are not currently represented in Dublin which I would allow - and three of which really can't be disputed.

Ignoring the currently completely unused Omnibus Station Licence, which was created for and used for Busaras's former bar; the categories I'm going to cover here are the Six Day and Early Closing categories of licences. The Early Closing bit requires pubs to close an hour earlier than otherwise, with the Six Day bit being the same as applied to all pubs in Northern Ireland until 1987 - that pubs could not open on Sundays; with the potential to have both of these applied at the same time.

At the time I wrote that list of licences, there was a single Six Day licence in Dublin - N0355 for the closed refreshments bar in the Four Courts - but this has not (yet) been renewed for 2020/2021. There have been no Six Day & Early Closing or Early Closing licences in Dublin in the time I've been able to obtain files from Revenue. However, these certainly have existed here.

The Beginning

A relic of another era, 6 day licences were introduced via the Licencing Act, 1872; as an option for the applicant. They were understandably cheaper - priced at 6/7ths of the normal licence duty - but you would need to have very poor or no Sunday trade for this to make a difference; so presumably it was intended as a money-saving measure for those who already did not open on a Sunday for their own, undoubtedly religious, reasons.

Early closing licences, and the option for having both restrictions, were introduced shortly after by the Licencing Act, 1874 with a saving of 1/7th of the licence duty available for taking this, or 2/7ths for both restrictions. For some very specific publicans, trade in the last hour may have been quiet enough - or non-existent, if they closed earlier - that this saving may have been worthwhile, but I suspect this was a rare reason for applying - at least initially.

From newspaper reportage of court proceedings, it would appear that in the bulk of cases, each type of licence was effectively imposed on an applicant by the local magistrate, either directly or by virtue of being known to refuse 7 Day Ordinary licences. Potentially, they were used as a form of probationary (in the new hire, not punishment sense) service, as many relatively new premises are seen applying to remove one or both restrictions a few years later.

Reasons for magistrates requiring either/both restrictions are rarely given, but it is clear from court reportage that many prospective publicans applied for a 6-day on the assumption that it would be more likely to be granted; and at least one case of it being effectively a punishment - a 6 day granted after a 7 day was stripped. This happened in Armagh, but obviously pre-1902 is also pre-1922, so the same legal system applied.

Reports of specific magistrates refusing to transfer a licence (e.g. on sale or death) unless it was downgraded to 6 day also occur - this piece stating that whether there was any legal basis for this was to be investigated

Freemans Journal, July 16th 1875

Those who found themselves with a 6 day licence when they actually wanted a 7 day licence could find it extremely difficult to convince a magistrate - who may have been the one who imposed it - to change. Magistrates may have attempted to cut this off in advance, but it didn't always stop attempts as this 1899 report on a request to convert a 6 day to 7 day on what is now N0076 The Berkeley (with a 7 day licence!) shows.
Freemans Journal, October 12th 1899

Some agreements to change a 6 day to 7 day included an agreement to surrender a 7 day licence from another pub - effectively preshadowing the modern era of how all licences are moved.

Outside of Dublin - and the cities of Belfast, Cork, Limerick and Waterford - the sale of alcohol on Sundays at all was banned in 1878, under the Sale of Liquors on Sunday (Ireland) Act; meaning that it was entirely sensible to apply for a 6 day licence and save the 1/7th duty. This ban lasted until 1927.

The End Of The Beginning

The last of these licences were issued new prior to the 1902 licencing changes; but then again this applies to *all* licences except a very limited set of categories which have been added since. They have, as with all Publican class licences, remained transferrable within the restrictions of whatever conditions were in force at the time; but I do not believe that any additional licences of either type have been created by conversion from a Seven Day Ordinary since 1902.

The Decline

So, how are there so few of them left?

In Dublin, a major reason for sale of Seven Day Ordinary licences in overcrowded or declining areas from 1902 on until roughly the 1930s, was so that the holder of a 6 day and/or early closing licence could transfer this licence to their premises and extinguish the less useful licence. This would have appealed to the attitude of certain court officials of the time who wished to reduced the total number of licences - one notable case not involving restricted licence was The Gresham and Wynns Hotels being instructed to buy a licence on Marlborough Street between them; and present it for cancellation in return for being allowed alter their own licences. 

That many of the 6 day licences in question were created to satisfy a whim of a past generation of court officials, and were now being swapped out for 7 day licences to satisfy another whim does seem to present some irony.

Nationally, the Intoxicating Liquor (Ireland) Act, 1906 introduced 10pm (cities/towns) / 9pm (rural) closing on Saturdays for all pubs. This meant that Early Closing licence holders now had to close at 9pm - or even 8pm - on a busy trading day, which would have provided a specific incentive to change to a non-restricted licence. This Act was repealed in full in 1927, returning Saturdays to their normal opening hours.

Revenue allowed for conversion of these licences to full for a cash payment, but without cancelling another licence, during at least two periods - 1960-2 for £200; and again in 2000 for £2,500. The 2000 offer included restrictions on selling the licence for a period, however.

Update insert: The 1960-2 conversion fees were put in to an investment fund, intended to fund alcohol awareness and alcoholism supports. This made occasional disbursements, mainly to fund specific ad campaigns, and was eventually wound up in 2009, returning about €300k to the Department of Health at the time.

Revenue only provide full licence registers back to 2010; but they provide a statistical report every year from 1996 to 2012; which also contains the two previous years, although some of the figures show cliff-edge drops or massive jumps year-on-year, which would be rather suspicious, even given that licences can 'go missing' for a few years even on current registers. These figures are national, not Dublin-specific

1994 - 9 six day, 631 early closing, 36 both
1995 - 78, 46, 25
1996 - 36, 25, 26
1997 - 57, 17, 28
1998 - 62, 20, 19
1999 - 61, 14, 18
2000 - 37, 1, 7
2001 - 22, 1, 8
2002 - 14, 4, 8
2003 - 11, 2, 5
2004 - 7, 6, 5
2005 - 7, 0, 5
(The figures continue much the same to 2012)

The impact of the 2000 conversion offer is notable, and assuming the exceptionally strange 1994 figures to be inaccurate, the only significant deviation from a slowly declining trend. The question must be asked - why did anyone retain their old type at all after 2000?

The End?

These licences were to be abolished, by automatic conversion to the 7 Day Ordinary, were the Intoxicating Liquor Bill 2005 to be enacted in to law. This Bill, generally remembered as the "Cafe Bar Bill", was rejected due to mass opposition to it allowing holders of Wine Retailers On Licences to sell other drinks without food - current rules allow them to only sell wine without food, beer with food and no spirits; but there is an entire future article in that debacle!

Despite England & Wales having a different licencing structure even pre-Independence, they also had 6 day and early closing licences, but it appears that these restrictions can be removed on request without charge since 1964 (section 65 subsection III)

I would hazard a guess that any future modernisation of licencing will automatically convert these to 7 Day Ordinary, and also that the last of type in Dublin - the Four Courts one - will not be further renewed


Updated extra stats:

Via the Oireachtas Library I have found scanned copies of similar statistical data as given from Revenue above:

1992 21 six day, 54 early closing, 26 both
1991 61, 4, 137 (I'm fairly certain this has the 6 day / 6 day early closing figures backwards)
1990 139, 3, 48
1989 164, 3, 63
1988 201, 4, 51
1987 204, 4, 59
1986 183, 3, 60
1985 208, 6, 61

The figures are not broken out prior to this, as far as I can see.

Updated Dublin stats:

A 1942 Parliamentary Question provided a figure of 16 six-day licences left in Dublin City, and 10 further in Dublin County.

Tuesday, 5 January 2021

January 2021 Licence Update

 Not a lot this month (says he for the tenth month in a row...); but what's there is still interesting

Additions

1017068 RascalsHQ, Inchicore - a licence type change for the formerly restaurant, now pub/off licence at the Rascals Brewery

update: I had missed this in my original comparison

Removals:

1011470 Scruffy Murphys, Powers Court - this may yet reappear as there is a hotel proposal for this site. Had long since closed.