Ah, the November Issue... (I don't think that's "a thing", but lets make it one).
There's over 160 deletions this month - but these are because those premises have not yet renewed for this year. I will only find out if they never renewed in October 2027. So we ignore these changes.
There is one single change to the fundamentals this month:
Renumbering:
1023199 The Landmark - formerly S0097. This premises has extended to another unit, so is renumbered to the new system.
Naas has over 20 licences of the type I cover. After a specific mopping up trip, I have been to about half of them - or over half of them that are actually open. It could have covered more if I'd done a bit more research before jumping on a bus down there too.
I will not be doing a specific trip back here to finish this off, although if the sole closed pub re-opens as plans I might drop by. So this is what you're going to get.
Naas is the county town and hence administrative centre of Kildare, and as such I have been there quite a lot over the years, so I already had a reasonable number of premises ticked off. I'll list these first:
KDP0001 Osprey Hotel
I've been to lots of random events here over the years. Built as part of the "Devoy Quarter", the hotel is actually on what was empty land rather than Devoy Barracks, but is somewhat contemporaneous with the construction of Kildare County Councils HQ next door.
KDP0025 Town House Hotel
I've had a single pint here, on a Saturday afternoon a good few years ago when doing a Lego show in Naas Library.
KDP0061 33 South Main
A modern pub that has kept some of its heritage - the building still has The Ivy heavily branded on it - I've eaten and drank here before.
KDP0137 Kavanaghs
Another place I've had food and drink in before. A bit more traditional.
KDP0182 Lawlors Hotel
An organisation I'm in had their Christmas party here for a few years, so this is the premises I've been in most often in Naas. I've also had more carverys here than I should have.
KDP0187 One New Row
Naas has two pubs that use their address as their name; which is quite a lot when you think about it.
This pub is very late 2010s in design and feels a tiny bit out of place, but I've been here more than once so I clearly don't have problems with it!
KDP0210 Killashee House Hotel
An exceptionally boozy work Christmas Party happened here in the early days of the crash. It was in January, as they found out the budget could stretch to booking out an entire hotel in January rather than just getting a dinner in December...
New visits
Only four of the five new pubs made it in to my photo roundup here, for reasons that may become clear when you get to its writeup - I didn't want to take a photo of the outside!
KDP0068 Haydens
There were *three* doormen outside this pub, which I find quite inexplicable for a generic November Sunday, with minimal sports on TV, nothing on locally and no doormen on any other pub. Busy and with the youngest crowd of any of the premises I visited on the day.
KDP0086 Fletchers
If this pub was in Dublin, it would be famous. A proto Long Hall; this has a Victorian interior, with electrically retrofitted gas lighting providing the minimal artificial illumination inside. A gem of a place.
KDP0097 O'Connors
This is almost a side street pub. I say "almost" as it is just one building off Main Street, and the building on the corner bears a large sign for it.
An oddly laid out place, but quite cheap.
KDP0113 The Forge
This pub closed in ~2011 and was set alight in 2018 - badly damaged, but not enough to melt the 2010/11 Premier League sticker off the front door.
It has been thoroughly renovated, and its owners also own other closed pubs in the town; one of which they plan to reopen (see the section below for why the other is a bit more of a problem).
Interesting pub, but needs more bar staff.
KDP0186 McCormacks
This should be quite a nice pub, but there were two things I didn't quite take to in the bar on my visit. It was weirdly smelly - to the point that I thought that it smelt like a bad pub toilets; but the toilets were actually in perfect nick; and there was basically no addressable bar. There are tables in front of the bar, and you get handed pints over those tables.
There are more areas to the pub, and I should probably have gone to take a look at those
Unvisited
1006072 Moat Theatre
I find suburban theatres hard enough to tick off in Dublin; I'm not going to bother on side quests.
KDP0033 Monread Lodge
Too far outside the town to do on foot, and I'm just not applying the same completionist approach to areas outside of Dublin.
KDP0046 Maudlins House Hotel
See above - it's relatively nearby
KDP0059/KDP0071 Naas Racecourse
A pub licence and a racecourse licence here. I'm not interested in horse racing, and see above about completionism being for Dublin only!
KDP0089 Tani
I said some research would have helped here. This restaurant has a full pub licence, and has had for a very long time; but I wasn't aware of that until I was back home.
KDP0112 Naas Court Hotel
This appeared to be set up for a specific Halloween party structure this weekend, rather than being open to the public; to the point that I couldn't figure out how guests even got in.
KDP0165 Harbour Hotel
I've actually tried to drink here before, but the bar opened later in the day. It's not on the register this year (or any time recently) for some reason so I just didn't bother.
KDP0174 Punchestown Racecourse
I've been to election counts here. The bar *was* open for one of them but I didn't really feel like drinking!
These premises are currently or permanently impossible to tick off:
KDP0018 Five Lamps
This is closed and has been for a very long time. The pub is owned by the owners of The Forge, who are planning to reopen it and have proven they can reopen a long closed pub already.
KDP0054 Time Nightclub.
I am baffled as to why this has its own licence, which is a hotel class one, as this is *physically in* the Osprey Hotel. It is also completely gone, having been converted to a conference centre. Time used to run branded buses up to Maynooth when I was of the age of going to bad rural nightclubs; but I never actually went.
KDP0183 Sarah Floods
This pub doesn't exist.
It was demolished in ~2007, but remains licenced. Apparently demolished for a road, which has not materialised; the licence is held by the owners of The Forge and the Five Lamps, but it's a bit harder to reopen a pub that is completely gone!
Gone
There's not a lot of pubs that are gone off the register in Naas, but there are some:
KDP0034 Swan Dowlings
This has been closed for a while, but not as long as when it first got permission for demolition (2012). The most recent proposals have been refused.
KDP0184 Graces
This is now Neighbourhood restaurant and does not seem to have retained the pub licence. Graces operated until at least 2022.
Some relatively long ago revisits this month, over a decade in a few cases.
S3965 Cassidys
S0065 Bill Ahernes - last visited as Fitzgeralds
S0106 Porterhouse
S0082 Brogans - the revisit caught that I'd never written this one up somehow
S3718 Peadar Kearneys
1008947 Wiley Fox
N1083 Briodys
N0099 Big Romance
S3103 The Christchurch
S3178 Street 66
S3467 Vicar Street
S3055 Buskers
S1438 Board - last visited as MVP
N1102 The Celt
S0015 The Ginger Man
N0106 MeMas - last visited as The Metro
N1556 Murrays
N1064 The Oval
1001292 Olympia Theatre
Finally, a "last of the last" post - this is the last premises with a National Cultural Institutions Licence for me to visit.
While this would only have been licenced in the 2000s (based on its licence number, and the post-1997 possibility of getting such a type of licence; this has been a concert hall since 1981; and was a music venue in the 1870s prior to becoming the original home of UCD.
A redevelopment project has begun, converting some of the areas of the building which UCD remained in for longer in to more recital spaces and other uses; but there is a full renovation of other areas planned which will lead to a multi year closure. Or at least that's my knowledge of what's planned; the NCH website is not currently loading for me so I can't check the full details!
I thought this would come sooner and had basically stopped paying attention to what was going on here; intending to visit when it reopened... but it hasn't actually closed yet. So to inch further towards completion, I had to find something to go to here.
This years Haunted Dancehall provided something interesting enough, and not too wallet shattering. This also has the advantage of multiple rooms and hence three bars - I suspect all three bars - open to the guests.
There's a small range of draught beer, a few more bottles and also a select few Irish independent cans available at these bars - Kinnegar Big Bunny and Trouble Ambush.
If someone else is doing a tick off list and gets wine with lunch in the cafe here, I'm pretty certain that is on the main licence too, so would count. I certainly haven't found another licence for it.
Another missed writeup, and one I'd never have caught if I didn't do my monthly revisit writeups. This is just getting in under the wire in time to be linked in this months one!
I think I know how this happened - I didn't catch that I'd been here before 2016 when I did my initial list of pubs I'd been to; then realised that I had at a later point, marked it off my list and maps but never updated the list on here. I used *that* list to do the RetroReview series.
I'd actually been here quite a lot, as it was the place I went before any gigs in the Olympia - at least until Galway Bay opened down the road; and it was the original location for Underdog; which I visited in all three locations (the last one quite regularly). Indeed, the writeup for what is now Thomas Reads mentions me decamping to Underdog in this premises.
Upstairs you get a fairly normal city centre bar, and downstairs you have the remains of Underdog; opened only at weekends by Brogans but still having a few craft options. It was oddly quiet the night I most recently dropped in - a Thursday, admittedly - so this may be a good choice if other pubs nearby are busy.
This was the last premises on the second-last of the very odd category licences for me to tick off - a National Sporting Arena Licence - and took some time to figure out when to do it.
The name here is a bit opaque to those who are not aware of the venue - it is the National Stadium for the Irish Amateur Boxing Association, and is the only non field sports venue with a Sporting Arena licence in Ireland as it stands.
For some reason, various gigs and cultural events on here that would have matched my interests were always on when I was out of the country. Never just otherwise occupied at home or anything else - always consistently when I was away.
Eventually, something I knew I could at least tolerate (Tomora supported by Oxis - both good performances) popped up, so I got here.
The venue is a modernised 1930s boxing stadium, but has held non-boxing events since the start; such as circuses and exhibitions in the early days. Concerts have been happening here since at least the 1950s, with acts as big and varied as Louis Armstrong, Fleetwood Mac and Leonard Cohen performing over the years.
While it is well maintained and well staffed; it needs some more internal signage as to the layout of the seating blocks - and where the bar is. Locating this required finding someone with a drink and asking them where they got it - something I was then asked a number of times as more people arrived!
There's a long wooden bar in a room that feels like a school sports hall, and an entirely can/bottle bar. They sell quite a mix of macro products at surprisingly reasonable prices, but the bar is a bit of a throwback; with neon signs for "Cold Budweiser" amongst others barely hidden behind a black cloth, presumably as they don't sell Budweiser.
There's a very solid sound system here, but the 11pm curfew means that it is not particularly useful for dance music nights; which would otherwise thrive here. The location works against it as being a reliever venue for gigs just too big for the Olympia or Vicar Street too
You thought I was done with this series... and so did I. Or possibly only I did; I don't think that many people keep that close track.
However, when preparing a post for an upcoming visit, I noticed that I couldn't find this entry anywhere. And I have been here, a few times at that.
This premises has a National Cultural Institutions Licence rather than a conventional pub licence. I've covered a number of the premises with these before; but not gone in to what the licence actually is.
Effectively, it is a pub-type on-licence granted on request (and with Ministerial approval) to a limited list of institutions, specified in 1997 legislation. It does not require a licence to be cancelled, and does not have limitations on type of customer; but also is not a conventional pub licence either - with no ability to transfer the licence out to another premises.
A bare majority of the specified institutions in Dublin have, or have had licences (S3660 Chester Beatty Library, 1022852 National Gallery, here; and formerly the National Library). The others that have not, yet at least are the Hugh Lane, the National Museum at either location, and the Royal Irish Academy.
In the case of IMMA, the licence is used for a limited range of drinks in the cafe; but also presumably for the large concerts which take place in the grounds - as the licence type would appear to cover this. I have been at a few of these over the years.
